Obama A Natural Born Citizen?

Does it matter? In the event that you have not noticed, the Constitution that we believe to be ‘the law of the land’ is dead. As W is quoted, it’s just GD piece of paper. Any literate person, who would bother to compare this great country of ours to the documents purported to construct our nation, would quickly understand that she was inspecting two different things. The Obama birth crisis will be the next thrust away from that silly ‘republic’ concept toward our rightful place as a pure Democracy.

It is interesting that had John Sidney McCain been the presumptive ruler of choice, the same question would hang; was he a natural born American? Does a military base in Panama count? Is it just a coincidence that both candidates might have brought about the same question?

Update: Political Class Dismissed has an example of a Hawaiian birth certificate.

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2 Responses to “Obama A Natural Born Citizen?”

  1. Ted Says:

    Seems the Supreme Court is waiting to hear from me before issuing a decision on Donofrio, so here goes: While the Court is more than loathe to enter this dispute, currently it has no choice (thanks to the audacious one — and I don’t mean Leo, I mean Barack) and the ONLY WAY to bring closure, knowing CLOSURE IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL before any Presidential inauguration, is to back the original intent of the Constitution, meaning, Obama is NOT an Article II “natural born citizen” (albeit Obama may or may not be a “citizen”, a question heated by the steadfast refusal of the DNC or any of the Secretaries of State to require his birth certificate, which the Court will now not have to confront).

  2. rightwinger Says:

    There is precedence in this case from a case in 1866 United States vs. Rhodes Case No. 16,151. This means that a natural born citizen has to be born in the US and both parents must be US citizens, otherwise the child would have dual citizenship and would be subject to a foreign power.

    United States vs. Rhodes Case No. 16,151

    That all persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States; and such citizens, of every race and color, without regard to any previous condition of slavery,”

    Explanation from John C. Eastman, Ph.D:

    The “subject to the jurisdiction” provision must therefore require something in addition to mere birth on U.S. soil. The language of the 1866 Civil Rights Act, from which the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment was derived, provides the key to its meaning. The 1866 Act provides: “All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”[3] As this formulation makes clear, any child born on U.S. soil to parents who were temporary visitors to this country and who, as a result of the foreign citizenship of the child’s par­ents, remained a citizen or subject of the parents’ home country was not entitled to claim the birth­right citizenship provided by the 1866 Act.

    Read the article for yourself.

    Article II

    No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

    The following case is before the US Supreme Court challenging Obama’s natural citizenship

    United States Supreme Court docket no. 08A407, Donofrio v. Wells, is now “Distributed for Conference of Dec. 5th, 2008” to the full Court meeting in private on that date. The case was the subject of previous sabotage by SCOTUS stay clerk, Danny Bickell (as well as judicial misconduct by NJ Appellate Division Judge Jack M. Sabatino). Bickell, after receiving the emergency stay application which requested extraordinary relief to stay the national election, took it upon himself to deny the application on the very time sensitive date it was filed, Nov. 3, a day before the election day popular vote.

    Read the article for yourself.

    Barack Obama’s own web site is claiming that we had dual citizenship. Because his father was Kenyan he was a British subject; therefore, Obama held a dual citizrnship of Us and British. There are other factors was he indeed born on US soil and was his Mother a US citizen. The laws were different when Obama was born. It was not as simple as my Mom was born in America so I am a US citizen. Barack Obama’s web site says the following:

    “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

    Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

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